Minutes of the Ordinary Meeting of the Penrice Community Council held
on Wednesday 18th July 2012 at Horton Village Hall at 7.30pm

 

 

Members Present:                    Councillor M Barnett  (Chairman)

Councillor  G Roberts

Councillor M Williams

Councillor A Glass

Councillor J Bowen

Councillor J Ellis

Councillor B Richards

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell

                                                                                                                                                                               Action
48/12                            Apologies for Absence.

 

Cllr G Roberts.

 

49/12                            Declarations of Interest

 

Cllr J Ellis declared a personal interest in the Item on the agenda relating to Shore Cottage due to being the owner.

 

50/12                            To confirm the minutes of the Meeting held 13th and  20th June 2012.

 

Minutes  13th June 2012

Cllr A Glass proposed that the minutes of the extra –ordinary meeting were a true and accurate record of events, seconded Cllr M Williams, carried unanimously.

 

Minutes 20th June 2012

Cllr J Ellis proposed to amend Item 45/12 – replace ‘units were attending’ with ‘units had been applied for.’

 

Amendment – Item 38/12  …insert  ‘waste’ bins and also insert in the lane by the lifeboat station in Horton.

 

Cllr R Lewis and B Richards joined the meeting 7.35pm

 

With the above amendments Cllr J Bowen proposed that the minutes were a true and accurate record of events, seconded Cllr M Williams, carried unanimously.

 

51/12                            Matters arising from the minutes.

 

Item 31/12  sub item (139/12)

The RNLI sign – Cllr T Methuen-Campbell advised that the wording had been agreed previously between Cllr Roberts and himself.

 

Item 33/12

Code of Conduct training – Cllr J Ellis reported that she was unable to attend. Cllr B Richards was also unable to attend.  The training could probably be arranged for another date the Clerk to enquire.                                                            SC


Item 41/12

The Penny Hitch signs -  The Clerk reported that the letter had been submitted to the CCS.  The Chair reported that there were already two signs at the top of the road warning drivers that the road was unsuitable for large vehicles.  Cllrs felt that it was not really necessary to have any additional signs.  A discussion followed.

 

Item 42/12

Oxwich food /compost collections.  The Clerk and Cllr A Glass had made contact with the CCS and Trish Flint had been contacted.  Reported:  The Environment department had been notified of missed collections and that this would now be investigated and monitored.

 

Item 44/12  

Cllr R Lewis advised that Cllr J Ellis had a pecuniary interest and should leave the meeting Cllr J Ellis did not agree with the minutes.  Council advised that the minutes had been approved in the earlier part of the meeting as a true and accurate record of events.

52/12                            Community Councils.

 

None

 

53/12                            Correspondence.

 

1                      CCS Planning – 3 holiday Chalets at Oxwich Leisure Park                                                Approved

2                      Sustainable Swansea – letter read to the meeting. Cllr R Lewis reported that a presentation had been given to

Reynoldston CC.  Cllr J Ellis to read and report back to the next meeting.                                                         JE

3                        RWE Enpower Renewables – Cllr M Williams to read and report back.  Rhosilli Village Hall Meeting 29th July

emails to be circulated by Cllr J Ellis.                                                                                         MW/JE

 

4                      Rural Development News – All Councillors commented on the fact that the literature that is produced is such a waste of money and queried who organizes and pays for the production of the information?       Noted

 

54/12                           Financial.

 

Gower CC Website                                                                   514                   £100

Cllr J Bowen petrol expenses attending OVW meetings              513                   £52.12

 

Clerk Salary and expenses                                 Information protected under the Data Protection Act

 

Clerk Salary and expenses                                 Information protected under the Data Protection Act

 

Propose to pay Cllr J Bowen, seconded Cllr J Ellis, carried unanimously.

 

55/12                           Planning.

 

Cllrs B Richards declared an interest in the item to be discussed relating to Bank Farm due to being the owner and withdrew from the meeting.

 

Cllr R Lewis declared an interest in all the items to be discussed under Planning due to sitting on the Area 2 Planning Committee withdrew from the meeting.

 

A                      Application no :2012/0876   Mr Brian Richards, Bank Farm, Horton

Disused quarry site adjacent to Castle Hill and opposite Rockwell on Horton Hill.

Erection of 5 no. dwelling units, garaging laundry and storage.

 

Comments had been received regarding a recent planning application submitted by another property, Ocean Heights which is in the same location as the proposed application no 2012/0876.  This other application had been recommended for refusal due to the fact that Welsh Water did not accept that the existing sewage system would be able to cope with the additional properties that would need to use it.  This application is for 5 properties and is in the same location and would need to use the same sewage system as was the cause for concern by Welsh Water in the application submitted by Ocean Heights.   These recommendations should be taken into account when the Council decides their comments. The proposal 2012/0876 was also for properties that would be situated on the road and not in keeping with the other properties in this area.

 

Council decided to object and submit the following comments;

 

1 Not in keeping with the surrounding area.

2          Not happy that the houses would be on the road.

3          The plans of the proposed properties look like town houses and not country properties.

4          Inappropriate proposal for the area and too intensive a development for the site.

5          Too intense a development for the existing sewage system to cope with.

 

Concern was raised due to the comments received from neighbours of the area that they had been shown another different set of plans.

Deliveries of any materials etc would exacerbate an already difficult situation with traffic blocking the road.

Too intensive a development for the site.

 

 

 

55/12                           Planning cont…..

 

B         Application no: 2012/0751   Mr S Tzafos

Greenways Leisure Park, Oxwich

Low level decking to side and end of caravan.

 

Following a brief discussion Council resolved that there was no comment to this application.

 

C          Application no 2012/0879  Mr and Mrs Jones

                        The Haven

                        Single storey rear extension

 

Cllr M Barnett declared an interest and withdrew from the meeting at this stage.  Cllr M Williams took the Chair for this part of the meeting.

 

Following a discussion Council resolved that there was no objection to this application.

 

Cllr Barnett once again took the Chair

 

 

·         Planning Sub Committee.

 

The Chair offered the suggestion that one person in each village was needed to screen plans prior to meetings, view the CCS Website and look at the reports.

 

Following a discussion on the pros and cons and practicalities of the proposal, Council resolved that J Ellis could represent Horton and A Glass to represent Oxwich.

 

56/12                            Horton Steps update.

 

The Chair reported:  Cllr M Barnett had met with Steve Parry and he had advised that the worst area would be removed in the next couple of weeks.  Following this the lower area would also be removed.  M Paignton had been advised so this problem area was now moving forward.

 

5712                             40 mph Speed Restriction from Upper Killay to Llethryd.

 

Council discussed this new speed limit, points that were raised;

 

1              The speed limit had been put in place to save animals.

2              This is not going to be policed.

3              Was a waste of time.

 

58/12                            Shore Cottage Boundary Agreement (JE)

 

Cllr R Lewis does not currently receive e mails, however this will be rectified in the next couple of weeks.

 

Cllr J Ellis declared an interest and withdrew from the meeting due to being the owner of Shore Cottage.

 

Council discussed the concerns and it was resolved that this proposed additional boundary agreement should be forwarded to the solicitor and any costs that will be incurred to be passed to Cllr J Ellis.

 

The Chair advised Cllr J Ellis of the decision.  A Letter from the Clerk to advise.                                      SC

 

59/12                            Councillors’ reports/questions.

 

Cllr A Glass reported; The’ roadshows’ had been a success, but generally the majority who attended were in support of the improved service that was on offer.  The project organizers were concerned that those who were apathetic will not be able to get the service as the 10th August 2012 is the dead line to sign up to the new Broadband service.  It is still an application at this stage, but will cost £1000 if not signed up at the application stage.

A Tent is planned at the Gower Show to promote the project.

59/12                            Councillors’ reports/questions cont….

 

Cllrs were advised of the details and sequence of the project.

 

Cllr G Roberts joined the meeting 8.36pm

 

The timetable is driven by the Welsh Assembly as the forms have to be in place by February.

 

60/12                           Public Questions relating to the agenda.  (limited to 10 minutes)

 

Mrs S Mumby from the floor raised that The Gower Website is not quite up to date.  The Clerk advised that the server had been changed and that sometimes the uploading of information did not work.  Also that it had always be difficult to get technical support from the organizer of the website.  Following a discussion the Clerk would endeavor to resolve the problems.

 

61/12                           Date and venue of next meeting.

 

19th September 2012 at Oxwich and Penrice Community Hall

 

Cllrs J Bowen, M Barnett and G Roberts gave their apologies.