Minutes of the Ordinary Meeting of the Penrice Community Council held
on Wednesday 19th May 2010

at the Horton Village Hall at 7.30pm


Members Present                  Councillor G Roberts (Chair)

Councillor J Bowen
             Councillor M Barnett

Councillor A Glass

Councillor T Methuen-Campbell

Councillor B Richards

Councillor A Lewis

 

 

1 member of the public was also present.

14/10                                        Apologies for Absence.

 

None

 

15/10                                        Declarations of Interest.

 

Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in items to be discussed under Planning relating to Bank Farm, due to being the owner.

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell declared a personal interest in Planning Application no’s 2010/ 0638 and 2010/ 0640.

 

16/10                                        To confirm the minutes of the meeting held on 21st April 2010.

 

Amendment:

Item 194/10 no 4

Amend Police Constable to Chief Constable.

 

With the amendment the minutes were a true and accurate record of events, proposed Cllr A Glass,

seconded Cllr M Barnett, carried unanimously.

 

17/10                                        Matters arising from the minutes.

 

191/10  (164/10)

The barrier near Pembroke Cottage had been repaired, but still needed painting.

 

(164/10)

The pot holes are getting very dangerous at the Sanctuary.  Many letters have been sent to the Highways Dept with a copy to  Bob Fenwick.  A reply had been received to show that the CCS is aware of this problem and hopefully this will be rectified.

 

194/10 no 2

The risk assessment has been completed and needs to be given to J Ellis.

 

Cllr J Bowen reported that the grass is very overgrown around the bench at Slade Cross.  Resolved : Clerk to call Lincoln Bennett to see if he can also undertake strimming this area.                                                                    SC

 

194/10

No 2

The area at Horton Green has been cut, but not by J Ellis.

No 3

The Byway that runs to the North of Horton Green is the responsibility of the CCS and has been since 1987.

 

No 3

A meeting had been arranged with the CCS 28th May at 2.30pm to discuss the removal of the sycamores to the South of Horton Green.  Cllr G Roberts to contact Martin Appleby to advise which trees are going to cause a problem in the future.

 

17/10                                        Matters arising from the minutes cont….

                                                                                                                                                                        GR

No 6

Cllrs G Roberts, A Glass, A Lewis and B Richards attended the inauguration of the Lord Mayor .  The Council wishes the new Lord Mayor Cllr R Lewis well in future charity work.

 

No 7

The National Trust Booklet – There have been problems with e mailing this due to the volume of information.  The National Trust are looking into rectifying the problem.

 

18/10                                        County Councillor R. Lewis.

 

No report.

 

19/10                                        Community Councils.

 

None

 

20/10                                        Correspondence.

 

1              CCS Response from Matthew Painton, Rights of Way Officer

The suggestions offered by the CCS were to either cut the vegetation at the side of the path and create a new road or repair the road where required.  Council considered the options and decided to accept an offer of a meeting to discuss this further.  Cllr A Lewis, B Richards, G Roberts and M Barnett to attend.      BR/AL/GR/MB

 

2              AONB Management Plan – Workshops offered to Stakeholders.                                                 Noted

 

3              The Adjudication Panel for Wales – Appointments offered to interested parties.                           Noted

 

4              Rural Development Plan – Booklet                                                                                             Noted

 

5              CCS  - Official notification of Diversion of Footpath no 23.                                                         Noted

 

 

21/10                                        Financial.

 

Lincoln Bennett  (grass cutting Oxwich Green)                             421                               90.00

Clerk salary & expenses                                                            422Information protected under the Data Protection Act

E E Humphreys (Bench repair)                                                   423                               950.00

Horton Hall annual rent                                                               424                               70.00

Zurich insurance (TBA)                                                               425

Microsoft windows software                                                      426                               69.99

 

Cllr A Glass proposed to pay, seconded Cllr J Bowen. Carried unanimously.

 

Cash @ bank £ 6, 544.89

 

22/10                                        Planning.

 

It had come to the attention of the Council that Reynoldston Police Station had submitted a planning application that had not been sent by the CCS to the PCC.  Plans had now been requested and received and Councillors viewed these at this meeting,. but unfortunately this had already been passed so no comment was able to be made.

 

A                      Application no:  2010/0542   High Kiln Bank, Slade

Change of use of garage /bedroom (class c3) to self-contained holiday let (class c1) with external alterations

 

Local Comments had been received that local residents did not want any other holiday homes in the area.

 

Council considered and discussed the application and decided that there was no objection to the application.

22/10                                        Planning cont…

 

B                      2010/0638    Mr M Griffiths.     Cliffs View, Penrice

 

Application for a lawful development certificate for an existing use or operation or activity including those in breach of a planning condition.

(To seek established use permission for the garden curtilage that has been extended  into the adjoining field in 1998 and also a swimming pool that was  constructed in 2004/05, which was originally in the front of the house.)

 

C                      2010/0640   Mr M Griffiths     Cliffs View, Penrice

Erection of an open style field shelter for four family horses.

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell declared a personal interest in items B and C and withdrew from the meeting.

 

1.      A Letter of objection had been received from Mrs J Methuen-Campbell and was read to the meeting.

 

2.      Comments made were that it was unreasonable to allow land owners to extend their gardens into

agricultural fields.

 

3       Council referred this subject to the Legal Department of the CCS

 

Council had no objection to the Horse Shelter.

 

D                      2010/0564    The Camping and Caravanning Club     Bank Farm, Horton

Caravan Rally 160 units  22nd July – 14th August 2011

 

E                      2010/0568     The Camping and Caravanning Club      Bank Farm, Horton

Caravan Rally 160 units   22nd April – 3rd May 2011 

 

Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in items D and E and withdrew from the meeting.

 

Council decided to submit comments as previous that as long as the CCS are monitoring the number of caravans in Gower at any one time then there are no objections.

 

 

Planning application received in the 21st April 2010 meeting

 

Planning Application no 2009/1575  Bank Farm

Cllr B Richards declared an interest in this item and remained withdrawn from the meeting.

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The Chairman gave a verbal account of the situation.

CCS had omitted to send complete plans, which therefore made it very difficult to understand the details of the application.  The new building was to be used as a reception, office and laundry and residential flat.  A condition on the application was that the existing flat which was located in the main building was to cease being used for residential purposes, but could be used as staff accommodation.   The ridge height of the new building had been lowered from the original application.

 

Council resolved that there was no further comment needed on this application.

 

23/10                                        Code of Conduct.

 

1                      The Chairman gave an overview of the situation.

 

The length of time taken to investigate a complaint seemed excessive.  This is an unreasonable length of time for Councillors to have situations such as this undecided.  Edwina Hart had been contacted by Cllr J Bowen and had written to the Ombudsman expressing concerns.  Should the Council make a comment on the length of time taken to complete investigations, as the complaint was regarding an incident that happened in July 2009?

 

Decided Clerk to send a letter expressing the Councils concerns on the unfair length of time as a procedural matter.      

SC

 

23/10                                        Code of Conduct cont…..

 

2              The Ombudsman had sent a letter to the Clerk asking if it was normal practice for the Council to hold an extra-

ordinary meeting to discuss a planning application and if it was not then why had the Council deviated from normal procedure?

 

Following a discussion, Council agreed and decided to reply explaining that due to having received the Application after the July meeting had been held and the fact that the Council only having a statutory 21 days  to respond to applications, then it was necessary to call an extra-ordinary meeting to allow the Council to make observations as is their right as a Statutory Consultee.  The letter will also explain that this is on occasion the normal practice of the Council.             SC

 

24/10                                        Surveyor Quotation for the Identification of the Boundary adjacent to Shore Cottage.

 

The Surveyor had provided a second quotation following receipt of a large amount of documentation concerning the boundaries.

 

The increased quotations had been circulated prior to the meeting and were considered.

 

Following a discussion Council decided that the Clerk to contact the Surveyor and explain that the quotation had increased so much, it was now out of proportion.  Clerk to try and get element 1 and 2 of the quotation agreed for £600.  SC

 

25/10                                        Marquee in the Oxwich Bay Hotel

 

Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in this item and did not speak or vote.

 

The Planning Application for an extension to the duration of the Marquee had recently been withdrawn.

 

Cllr A Glass had met with Mr I Williams and reported:

1      The Marquee needed to be white as it hosted weddings and this was appropriate.

2      The CCS may decide this on a delegated decision which therefore would mean it would not be considered by the Area 2 Planning Committee.

3      £20,000 was being spent on a special green marquee which would be white inside for marketing purposes through the winter months, which would reduce the visual impact in the area.

4      If there is no marquee in situ, then this is causing difficulties when prospective customers view the location.

5      Mr Williams is in the process of re-applying for planning permission.

 

There is currently no application on which to comment, however Council thanked Cllr Glass for providing this report of the situation.

 

26/10                                        Road Verges

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell had looked at the location in question in Oxwich and advised that it would be impossible to remove the earth as the bank would collapse and it slows the traffic in this area.

 

Cllr Glass would advise the resident who raised this query.                                                                                              AG

 

27/10                                        Dog Litter Bins at Horton Green

 

The public had been leaving dog litter in bags on the Green.  Following a discussion on the pros and cons of these bins Council resolved to write to the CCS to request a small sign to be erected to advise that there is a litter bin in the Horton Car Park.                                                                                                                                                                SC

 

28/10                                        Matters Outstanding

 

The Council purchased a new laptop and will need to purchase the correct windows software to install.  Prices are at PC World are approx £69.99.

Proposed to pay Cllr J Bowen, seconded Cllr T Methuen-Campbell, carried unanimously.

 

29/10                                        Public Questions relating to the agenda.  (limited to 10 minutes)

 

1                      Mr Roberts from the floor advised the Council that he had been approached in order to honour Cllr R Lewis on

his appointment as the Lord Mayor of Swansea, due to having lived in the village for so many years.

 

A function was being considered to be held at Bank Farm in September and it would be appreciated if the PCC would support this.

 

Council agreed that they would support in whatever way they were able.

 

2              Mr Roberts from the floor felt that it was sad that the PCC’s attitude to the tourist trade in the area was not more positive.   Tourism brings money into the area and employment.  He could not understand why the Council were objecting to the tourist trade.

 

The Chairman responded that the Council did not object to tourism and always tried to find a balance as the area has to have a local economy.  The CCS seem to be policing planning applications and expansions more effectively now than in previous years. 

 

The Clerk advised that objections that the Council had made in recent years were to local businesses that did not have the proper planning permission and this is what the Council had objected to.

 

Cllr A Glass reiterated that the Council try and achieve a balance when responding to applications, in order to support the businesses and at the same time ensure that they operate within the bounds of the law and the restrictions laid down as Gower is a AONB designated area.

 

Cllr B Richards pointed out that Gower was declared an AONB when there was three times the amount of tourism in the area as there is today.  Hotels that were in Horton have now gone. Where is the balance?

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell stated that tourism is not depleted in the area and that it had expanded extensively in the 1960’s.  The impact has changed Gower and Gower villages completely.  People are now only trying to protect what is left in order to preserve future tourism.

 

The Chairman, Cllr G Roberts stated that the hotels have gone from the area, not as a result of any actions taken by the PCC or any other body, but that they were not economically viable.  Holidays abroad became cheaper etc.

 

 

30/10                                        Date and venue of next meeting.

 

16th June 2010  7.30 pm at Oxwich Community Hall

 

 

 

 

 

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