Minutes of the meeting of the Penrice Community Council held on ~

Wednesday 21st October 09   at Horton Village Hall   7.30pm

 

Members Present:                    Councillor G Roberts – Chairman                                                

                                                Councillor B Richards 

                                                Councillor A Lewis

                                                Councillor J Bowen

                                                Councillor T Methuen-Campbell

                                                Councillor A Glass

                                                Councillor R Lewis

                                                                                                 

Approx five members of the public were also present.      Cllr Lewis arrived late , A Glass @20.00 hrs

 

86/09                            Apologies for Absence.

 

Cllr A Oliver.

 

87/09                            Declarations of Interest.

 

Cllr A Lewis and Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in Items to be discussed under Planning relating to Bank Farm and also Northwood, Horton.

 

88/09                            To confirm the minutes of the meeting held on 16th September 09

 

Cllr B Richards proposed that the minutes were a true and accurate record of events, seconded Cllr A Lewis, carried unanimously.

 

89/09                            Matters arising from the minutes.

 

Item no 74/09  -

The Sanctuary  - Reported:  The pot holes still not repaired.  Decided: Letter to Highways and copy letter to Carl Humphries and Bob Fenwick.                                                                                                                       SC

 

Item no 75/09  f)  

Eastern Slade Farm  - Reported:  The application has been deferred and has not currently been decided.

 

Item no 77/09

Benches update  Reported Emrys has been contacted to quote on the repair of the benches.  Decided : provide a  list of all benches for accurate quotation.                                                                                                     GR

 

Item no 75/09

Benches – Slade Cross grass need urgent cutting back.  Lincoln has done a very good job of Oxwich Green.  Decided: Contact Lincoln to cut the overgrowth at this location also.                                                     JB

 

90/09                            County Councillor R. Lewis.

 

None.

 

91/09                            Community Councils.

 

1          Minutes of the One Voice Wales Area Committee.                                                                        Noted.

 

92/09                            Correspondence.

 

1          Letter – Jane Davidson to E Hart answering questions re:  Helwick Bank  -                         Noted

2          Letter A Cairns -  re: Helwick Bank.                                                                                             Noted

3          Letter from E Hart Re; Helwick Bank                                                                                            Noted

4          e Mail from Jeremy Bowen Re Eastern Slade Farm stating disappointment in PCC not objecting to tents.

-          The Chairman, Cllr G Roberts advised in response that during the Extra-ordinary meeting it was difficult for the Council to gauge the feeling of the residents present at the meeting.  The Council made an effort to be consistent as from previous experience residents did not object to tents at Greenways Leisure Park.  The Council were trying to strike a balance between businesses in the area and residents and the Council based their decision on this.

92/09                            Correspondence cont….

 

Mr P Davies requested to speak from the floor-

The Council had accepted the UDP and camping on the Gower seems to be growing all the time. The last letter states that a road has been put in to access the field.  Andrew Oliver has also submitted planning permission for camping alongside the field.

           

Cllr T Methuen- Campbell thought Mr J Bowen made some good points in his letter.

 

Council resolved to note the letter and to acknowledge the points made by Mr P Davies.

 

5          Dwr Cymru letter – regarding the flooding works at Oxwich Cross.                                      Noted

6          CCS Planning – Ashcroft No 2008/0184                                                   CCS Approved

7          CCS Planning – Bank Farm Caravan Rally no 2009/1269               CCS Approved

8          CCS Planning – Bank Farm Caravan Rally  no 2009/1268              CCS Approved

9          Welsh Assembly Government – Low Carbon Community Challenges Information                             Noted

10         Victim Support Cymru – Financial request                                                                                    Noted

11         South Wales Police – Your priorities consultation survey.                                                              GR

12         Gowerton Home School Assn – Options under consideration by CCS-                                            Noted

13         CCS – Swansea Bay Shoreline Management Plan review.                                                 Noted

14         Gower Society – Newsletter and programme.                                                                               Noted

15         Alun Cairns – Surgery Posters  - To be displayed.

 

 

93/09                            Financial.

                                                                        Chq no                                      Amount

The Ink Store                                                     394                                           £19.94

Clerks salary and expenses                                393                                           Information protected under the

                                                                                                                        Data Protection Act

Proposed to pay Cllr B Richards, seconded Cllr J Bowen, carried unanimously

 

Cash at bank 30th Sept 09 £ 13633.41                 

 

94/09                            Planning.

 

Cllrs A Lewis and B Richards both declared a personal interest in items A , B and C relating to Bank Farm and Northwood, Horton and withdrew from the meeting.

 

A          Application no 2009/1465    Mrs A Lewis     Northwood, Horton     Proposal: Porch

 

Council decided there was no objection to this application.

 

B          Application no 2009/1469   Neville Golding-Hann      Bank Farm, Horton

Caravan rally approx 50 units 29/4 – 5/5/ 2010

 

C          Application no 2009/1484  The Caravan Club      Bank Farm, Horton

            Caravan rally approx 30caravans   30/4 – 3/5/2010

 

Council decided that to respond as previously with all caravan rallies, that there is no objection as long as the CCS are monitoring the situation in Gower as a whole.

 

D          Application no 2009/1280    CCW     Oxwich National Nature Reserve

Replacement bird hide at same location, built beside pond with access path from public highway

 

Council decided that there was no objection to this application.

 

E          Application no 2009/1389    Mr & Mrs Trick       Asmara, Oxwich

Single storey front extension to form ‘Granny Flat’

 

Council heard the explanation of the plans by the applicant and following a brief discussion decided that there was no objection to this application.

 

Notice : The Appeal made by Carreglwyd of Port Eynon was to be heard at the Civic Centre, 24th November 09  commencing  10 a.m.

95/09                            Locking of gates at Horton Car Park  ( Cllr GR)

 

Reported:  The gates are never locked at night and there has been some disturbance from campers at this location.

The gate is able to be locked. 

Decided:  Letter to CCS to request that this is rectified and that the gates are locked at 8pm and opened at 8am. SC

 

96/09                            Barrier Pembroke cottage  ( Cllr GR)

 

Reported:  The barrier has fallen into disrepair and has rusted.  The PCC originally placed this barrier here.  Derek Watkins fabricates and he is based at Pennard.   Decided to further assess the situation and Cllr A Lewis to contact Cllr GRoberts with phone no.                                                                                                                              AL / GR                                                           

97/09                            Benches.

 

Discussed earlier in the meeting.

 

98/09                            Noticeboards.

 

The Clerk reported: Quotations had been obtained from 3 suppliers.  The cheapest quotation for 3 notice boards was £ 2400 +  £ 80 delivery + VAT  size approx 5’ x 4’.

The price including a header board with the Council’s name would be £ 2800 + £ 80 delivery + VAT.

 

Following a discussion it was decided to obtain a quotation for the installation of all 3 boards from Keith Parker and agenda next meeting.                                                                                                                               GR

 

99/09                            Over Hanging Hedges (Cllr AG)

 

Cllr A Glass reported:  Complaints have been received from residents that the hedges mainly belonging to absentee landlords were causing a problem, mainly at Oxwich Cross ( Frog’s Leap).  The overgrown hedges were making pedestrians walk out into the road to pass this area.

 

The CCS can cut the hedge if obstructing the area and charge the home owner.

 

Cllr A Glass had spoken to the home owner and he had responded that birds were nesting and therefore was unable to cut the hedge.   Cllr A Glass had cut the hedge and in the short term solved the problem.

 

Council decided:  To monitor next year and letters could be sent if not rectified.

 

Cllr A Lewis left the meeting 8.30pm

 

100/09                          Sale of land adjoining Shore Cottage – update.

 

The Chairman, Cllr G Roberts reported: 

A site meeting had been held on the Saturday, prior to this meeting at Shore Cottage, Horton. To view the land in question.     A Larger OS map had been marked out by Mr J Mumby to outline his land with measurements.  Also the byway and the boundary had been marked out on the ground with yellow spray and photographs had been taken of this for the record.   There did not seem to be any disagreement with the land in round terms regarding the plot of land that was for sale.   However the right of access that Mr Mumby claimed he had to access his land behind the land to be sold needed to be established.

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell stated that it was not really relevant what rights are currently in existence, but the covenant had been placed on the sale to prevent any new rights of access being granted.

 

Cllr R Lewis arrived 8.35pm

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell thought that the original covenant was drafted too widely initially.

 

Cllr G Roberts – Mr J Mumby was going to establish his rights of access and had written to Rosemary Morgan via his solicitor Edward Harris with documentary evidence of this right.

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell questioned if this piece of land needed to go to Shore Cottage, would it not be easier if this end triangle of land was sold to Mr+Mrs Mumby.

 

J Ellis advised that this was not what was discussed with the Council.

 

100/09                          Sale of land adjoining Shore Cottage – update cont…..

 

Cllr R Lewis queried the length of time this matter has been discussed and should not be moving the goal posts at this late stage.

 

The Chairman, Cllr Roberts advised that the Council needs to be sure that the needs of all residents are satisfied and if there are any concerns / queries over the access these need to be ascertained.

 

Mr J Mumby stated that the boundaries of the land that the PCC sold to Mr Alexander and the land adjoining Shore Cottage to be sold now need to be clearly defined by Mr Mumby and J Ellis.  In the original plans the triangle at the bottom of the driveway adjoining the byway is shown as Mr J Mumby’s land anyway.  The PCC cannot sell land that is already owned by Mr J Mumby.

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell – Another issue is that when the land was sold in the 80’s it was not  to be enclosed.

 

J Ellis advised that in the new contract there is a clause that states – ‘No Structures’, which should cover this.

 

J Ellis – J Ellis would continue to have discussions with Mr & Mrs Mumby to identify if they have the access rights they need and would ask her solicitor to confirm on the map to clarify what was being purchased.  The map that is held by the land registry shows what the PCC currently owns, however the boundary on the ground needs to be agreed.  

J Ellis – We must be careful to draw a line as to what is in the conveyance and what is not.  J Ellis does not want to incur the fees of the solicitor to sort this out.

 

The Council noted this, but advised that this would be difficult to control.

 

J Ellis questioned if the sale is held up due to a query over the mapping of the land.

 

Cllr T Methuen-Campbell advised that this is related to the sale.

 

101/09                          Matters Outstanding.

 

None.

 

102/09                          Public Questions relating to the agenda.  (limited to 10 minutes)

 

None

 

103/09                          Date and venue of next meeting

 

18th November 09    7..30pm