Minutes of the meeting of the
Penrice Community Council held on ~
Wednesday 21st October 09 at Horton Village Hall 7.30pm
Members Present: Councillor
G Roberts – Chairman
Councillor
B Richards
Councillor
A Lewis
Councillor
J Bowen
Councillor
T Methuen-Campbell
Councillor
A Glass
Councillor
R Lewis
Approx five members of the public were also present. Cllr Lewis arrived late , A Glass @20.00
hrs
86/09 Apologies for
Absence.
Cllr A Oliver.
87/09 Declarations of
Interest.
Cllr A Lewis and Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in Items to be discussed under Planning relating to Bank Farm and also Northwood, Horton.
88/09 To confirm the
minutes of the meeting held on 16th September 09
Cllr B Richards proposed that the minutes were a true and accurate record of events, seconded Cllr A Lewis, carried unanimously.
89/09 Matters
arising from the minutes.
Item no 74/09
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The Sanctuary - Reported: The pot holes still not repaired. Decided: Letter to Highways and copy letter to Carl Humphries and Bob Fenwick. SC
Item no 75/09
f)
Eastern Slade Farm -
Reported: The application has been
deferred and has not currently been decided.
Benches update
Reported Emrys has been contacted to quote on the repair of the
benches. Decided : provide a list of all benches for accurate quotation. GR
Benches – Slade Cross grass need urgent cutting back. Lincoln has done a very good job of Oxwich
Green. Decided: Contact Lincoln to cut
the overgrowth at this location also. JB
90/09 County
Councillor R. Lewis.
None.
91/09 Community
Councils.
1 Minutes of the One Voice Wales Area Committee. Noted.
92/09 Correspondence.
1 Letter –
Jane Davidson to E Hart answering questions re: Helwick Bank - Noted
2 Letter A
Cairns - re: Helwick Bank. Noted
3 Letter from
E Hart Re; Helwick Bank Noted
4 e Mail from
Jeremy Bowen Re Eastern Slade Farm stating disappointment in PCC not objecting
to tents.
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The Chairman, Cllr G Roberts advised in response that during
the Extra-ordinary meeting it was difficult for the Council to gauge the
feeling of the residents present at the meeting. The Council made an effort to be consistent as from previous
experience residents did not object to tents at Greenways Leisure Park. The Council were trying to strike a balance
between businesses in the area and residents and the Council based their
decision on this.
92/09 Correspondence
cont….
Mr P Davies requested to speak
from the floor-
The Council had accepted the UDP
and camping on the Gower seems to be growing all the time. The last letter
states that a road has been put in to access the field. Andrew Oliver has also submitted planning
permission for camping alongside the field.
Cllr T Methuen- Campbell thought
Mr J Bowen made some good points in his letter.
Council resolved to note the
letter and to acknowledge the points made by Mr P Davies.
5 Dwr Cymru
letter – regarding the flooding works at Oxwich Cross. Noted
6 CCS Planning
– Ashcroft No 2008/0184 CCS
Approved
7 CCS Planning
– Bank Farm Caravan Rally no 2009/1269 CCS
Approved
8 CCS Planning
– Bank Farm Caravan Rally no 2009/1268 CCS Approved
9 Welsh
Assembly Government – Low Carbon Community Challenges Information Noted
10 Victim
Support Cymru – Financial request Noted
11 South Wales
Police – Your priorities consultation survey. GR
12 Gowerton
Home School Assn – Options under consideration by CCS- Noted
13 CCS –
Swansea Bay Shoreline Management Plan review. Noted
14 Gower
Society – Newsletter and programme. Noted
15 Alun Cairns
– Surgery Posters - To be displayed.
93/09 Financial.
Chq
no Amount
The Ink Store 394 £19.94
Clerks salary and expenses 393 Information
protected under the
Data
Protection Act
Proposed to pay Cllr B Richards, seconded Cllr J Bowen,
carried unanimously
Cash at bank 30th Sept 09 £ 13633.41
94/09 Planning.
Cllrs A Lewis and B Richards both declared a personal interest in items A , B and C relating to Bank Farm and Northwood, Horton and withdrew from the meeting.
A Application
no 2009/1465 Mrs A Lewis Northwood, Horton Proposal: Porch
Council decided there was no objection to this application.
B Application
no 2009/1469 Neville Golding-Hann Bank Farm, Horton
Caravan rally approx 50 units 29/4 – 5/5/ 2010
C Application no 2009/1484 The Caravan Club Bank Farm, Horton
Caravan rally approx 30caravans 30/4 – 3/5/2010
Council decided that to respond as previously with all caravan rallies, that there is no objection as long as the CCS are monitoring the situation in Gower as a whole.
D Application
no 2009/1280 CCW Oxwich National Nature Reserve
Replacement bird hide at same location, built beside pond with access path from public highway
Council decided that there was no objection to this application.
E Application
no 2009/1389 Mr & Mrs Trick Asmara, Oxwich
Single storey front extension to form ‘Granny Flat’
Council heard the explanation of the plans by the applicant and following a brief discussion decided that there was no objection to this application.
Notice : The Appeal made by Carreglwyd of Port Eynon was to be heard at the Civic Centre, 24th November 09 commencing 10 a.m.
95/09 Locking
of gates at Horton Car Park ( Cllr GR)
Reported: The gates are never locked at night and
there has been some disturbance from campers at this location.
The gate is able to be locked.
Decided: Letter to
CCS to request that this is rectified and that the gates are locked at 8pm and
opened at 8am. SC
Reported: The barrier has fallen into disrepair and has rusted. The PCC originally placed this barrier here. Derek Watkins fabricates and he is based at Pennard. Decided to further assess the situation and Cllr A Lewis to contact Cllr GRoberts with phone no. AL / GR
97/09 Benches.
Discussed earlier in the meeting.
The Clerk reported: Quotations had been obtained from 3
suppliers. The cheapest quotation for 3
notice boards was £ 2400 + £ 80
delivery + VAT size approx 5’ x 4’.
The price including a header board with the Council’s name
would be £ 2800 + £ 80 delivery + VAT.
Following a discussion it was decided to obtain a quotation
for the installation of all 3 boards from Keith Parker and agenda next meeting. GR
99/09 Over
Hanging Hedges (Cllr AG)
Cllr A Glass
reported: Complaints have been received
from residents that the hedges mainly belonging to absentee landlords were
causing a problem, mainly at Oxwich Cross ( Frog’s Leap). The overgrown hedges were making pedestrians
walk out into the road to pass this area.
The CCS can cut the hedge if obstructing the area and charge
the home owner.
Cllr A Glass had spoken to the home owner and he had
responded that birds were nesting and therefore was unable to cut the
hedge. Cllr A Glass had cut the hedge
and in the short term solved the problem.
Council decided: To
monitor next year and letters could be sent if not rectified.
Cllr A Lewis left the meeting 8.30pm
100/09 Sale
of land adjoining Shore Cottage – update.
The Chairman, Cllr
G Roberts reported:
A site meeting had been held on the Saturday, prior to this
meeting at Shore Cottage, Horton. To view the land in question. A Larger OS map had been marked out by Mr
J Mumby to outline his land with measurements.
Also the byway and the boundary had been marked out on the ground with
yellow spray and photographs had been taken of this for the record. There did not seem to be any disagreement
with the land in round terms regarding the plot of land that was for sale. However the right of access that Mr Mumby
claimed he had to access his land behind the land to be sold needed to be
established.
Cllr T Methuen-Campbell stated that it was not really
relevant what rights are currently in existence, but the covenant had been
placed on the sale to prevent any new rights of access being granted.
Cllr R Lewis arrived 8.35pm
Cllr T Methuen-Campbell thought that the original covenant
was drafted too widely initially.
Cllr G Roberts – Mr J Mumby was going to establish his
rights of access and had written to Rosemary Morgan via his solicitor Edward
Harris with documentary evidence of this right.
Cllr T Methuen-Campbell questioned if this piece of land
needed to go to Shore Cottage, would it not be easier if this end triangle of
land was sold to Mr+Mrs Mumby.
J Ellis advised that this was not what was discussed with
the Council.
100/09 Sale
of land adjoining Shore Cottage – update cont…..
Cllr R Lewis queried the length of time this matter has been
discussed and should not be moving the goal posts at this late stage.
The Chairman, Cllr Roberts advised that the Council needs to
be sure that the needs of all residents are satisfied and if there are any
concerns / queries over the access these need to be ascertained.
Mr J Mumby stated that the boundaries of the land that the
PCC sold to Mr Alexander and the land adjoining Shore Cottage to be sold now
need to be clearly defined by Mr Mumby and J Ellis. In the original plans the triangle at the bottom of the driveway
adjoining the byway is shown as Mr J Mumby’s land anyway. The PCC cannot sell land that is already
owned by Mr J Mumby.
Cllr T Methuen-Campbell – Another issue is that when the
land was sold in the 80’s it was not to
be enclosed.
J Ellis advised that in the new contract there is a clause
that states – ‘No Structures’, which should cover this.
J Ellis – J Ellis would continue to have discussions with Mr
& Mrs Mumby to identify if they have the access rights they need and would
ask her solicitor to confirm on the map to clarify what was being
purchased. The map that is held by the
land registry shows what the PCC currently owns, however the boundary on the
ground needs to be agreed.
J Ellis – We must be careful to draw a line as to what is in
the conveyance and what is not. J Ellis
does not want to incur the fees of the solicitor to sort this out.
The Council noted this, but advised that this would be
difficult to control.
J Ellis questioned if the sale is held up due to a query
over the mapping of the land.
Cllr T Methuen-Campbell advised that this is related to the
sale.
101/09 Matters
Outstanding.
None.
102/09 Public
Questions relating to the agenda.
(limited to 10 minutes)
None
103/09 Date
and venue of next meeting
18th November 09 7..30pm