Minutes of the meeting of the
Penrice Community Council held on ~
Wednesday 15th July 09
at Horton Village Hall 7.30pm
Members Present: Councillor
G Roberts Chairman
Councillor
J Bowen
Councillor
B Richards
Councillor
A Glass
Councillor M Barnett
Councillor
A Oliver
51/09 Mr
Bob Fenwick, Group Leader, Highway Maintenance, The City and County
of Swansea
Council to discuss the roads in the area.
Mr Fenwick gave an explanation on how the Highways
Department operate and why they do the work that they do. The CCS draft 5 year plan for 2010 2014
has been finalized and now has to be agreed by Cabinet and following
this will be made public.
1 Various
safety inspections of the roads have been carried out, bus routes and other
link and access roads to communities will have priority, A large list of problem areas has been built
up to be rectified in the next 5 years.
2 Penrice is
in the 5 year programme. Schemes will
be grouped together so that similar jobs will be completed at the same time.
3 The Highways
system is very good and everything that is logged will have a history. Any problems with performance then advise
the Highways Dept.
4 The
difference between category 1, 2 and 3 was discussed and explained. Increased levels of heavy sudden rain has
caused more problems than normal.
5 A question
from the floor : Blowing Ashphelt Is this a good idea? When the sudden heavy rain falls then this
is washed away.
6 Mr
Fenwick: Very difficult to find an
alternative that is a better short term solution. If the area holds initially, then is more likely to remain
longer. The jet machine is very good at
filling the sidings.
7 Problems at
Slade were raised and also the various categories that the CCS rate the urgency
of repair 1,2 + 3 . Over 50mm of
depth of a pot hole would require urgent repair.
8 £900,000
from WAG for strengthening of the roads the CCS are dependant on.
9 Question
from the floor : How does the community request speed bumps?
10 Other
traffic calming schemes can be considered that have the same effect.
11 The various
machines that repair the road were discussed and explained.
12 Agreed that
the roads seemed to be getting worse in the last few years. Mr Fenwick hoped that WAG would continue to
support the CCS financially in the future and that much needed maintenance
could be carried out.
51/09 Mr
Bob Fenwick, Group Leader, Highway Maintenance, The City and County
of Swansea
Council to discuss the roads in the area cont
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13 Insurance
claims have lessened in the last few years due to the defence under Section 58
of the Highways Act.
The Council thanked Mr Fenwick for attending the meeting and
for his explanation of how the Highways Department of the CCS operates.
52/09 To
confirm the minutes of the meeting held on 17th June 09.
Item 35/09 (item
23/09)
Omit no 4 and replace with
.Cllr B Richards used The Tors
as an example of the work that you would have to do if you had to prove that
the lounge, which was built after the original bungalow.
With the above amendment the minutes were a true and
accurate record, proposed Cllr J Bowen, seconded Cllr M Barnett, carried
unanimously.
53/09 Matters
arising from the minutes.
Item 35/09 ( Item
17/09)
The Rural Development Plan Folder had been given to either
Cllrs B Richards / A Lewis. Cllr B
Richards to try and track down if he still has the folder and the Clerk to ring
Cllr A Lewis. BR
/SC
Item 17/09 (183/09)
Dwr Cymru A response letter had been received and Cllr A
Glass gave a verbal report on the situation.
Await further letter due in approx 14 days and Clerk to send
to Cllr A Glass in order to progress if necessary prior to the next meeting. SC/
AG
Cllr M Barnett felt that a letter should be sent when the dredging should have started on 1/8//09. Decided: letter to be sent following this date. MB / SC
Item 35/09 (Item
23/09)
Carreg Lwyd The Chairman gave an overview of the situation
to date. A letter had been sent to the
Planning Inspectorate advising that the PCC would possibly wish to make comment
regarding the Appeal lodged by the Carreg Lwyd camp site prior to and/or at the
appeal hearing and would do so in conjunction with the Port Eynon Community
Council, thus allowing the PCC the opportunity to comment if so decided.
Agreed: Agenda
September meeting to discuss and decide if any comment to be submitted. SC
54/09 County
Councillor R. Lewis.
55/09 Community
Councils.
1
One Voice Wales Green Issues meeting noted
2
One Voice Wales notice of Training noted
3
Information for ombudsman noted
56/09 Correspondence.
1 CCS Letter advising that the one way system in Horton is an informal arrangement and therefore no signs are required. Noted
2
CCS Rural Development News - Noted
3
Town Councils Forum Community Liaison Committee
information Noted
4
CCS - Letter
advising of decision to planning application no 2008/1561 The Hayes,
Horton Refuse
5
CCS Shoreline Management information previously sent to
members. Noted
6
Royal Air Force information. Noted
57/09 Financial.
Clerk Salary and expenses chq no 388 Information protected by the Data Protection Act.
Clerk salary and expenses ( post dated cheque for Aug as no
meeting)
Chq no 389 Information protected by the Data Protection Act.
Proposed to pay: Cllr B Richards seconded: Cllr A Glass carried unanimously.
Cash @ bank 30th June 09 £12 078.10
58/09 Planning
A Application
no :2008/0184
Applicant
: Mr & Mrs Mead
Address :
Ashcroft, Oxwich
Council decided that more information was needed to properly
consider the application. SC
B Application
no :2009/0953
Applicant
: The Caravan Club
Address:
Bank Farm, Horton
Proposal :
Caravan Rally approx 30 units 5th Aug 2010 23rd Aug
2010
Cllr B Richards declared a personal interest in both items B
and C and withdrew from the meeting during these items.
C Application
no: 2009/0918
Applicant
: The Caravan Club
Address:
Bank Farm, Horton
Proposal :
Caravan Rally approx 60 units 28th May to 6th June 2010
Council considered both items B and C and decided that the
response would be as previously made to the CCS.
SC
59/09 Memorial
Bench and Tree (Paul Walters) (Cllr GR)
A letter had been received from the CCS advising that planning permission was not required if under Class A of part 12 of Schedule 2, of Article 3 of the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development) Order 1995 and that the bench is installed as part of the Statutory Function of the PCC.
The Chairman advised that a further meeting was to be held
with Mr Walters. GR
60/09 Benches
update ( Cllr AG/JB/GR)
Cllrs A Glass, J Bowen and the Chairman has visited the benches in the ward and a report had been circulated with recommendations on work needed and timescale.
Council decided that to offer it to tender for the work as a
one off job. Clerk to advertise. SC
Cllr A Glass to speak to Emrys to have a look at the work
and price. AG
Cllr J Bowen reported that the bus stop in Oxwich Green was
in very poor condition. Letter to Cath
Swain copy to Director of the Environment. SC
The grass around the benches also needs to be cut and to add
into the tender. SC
Does any of this land belong to the Penrice Estate?
61/09 Notice
boards.
The Chairman had received a quote from a local carpenter for two boards for £2700.
Agreed that this is too expensive. More quotes needed. Cllr J Bowen offered to research. JB
Agenda next meeting.
62/09 Matters
Outstanding.
1 The Gower Website Clerk reported that this is still causing problems and that Selina had offered to come out and rectify the problem but would carry a charge. The Clerk felt that enough money had been paid to the website to have technical support that would only have to be enough to iron out problems that were only due to the instructions being so new and un tested.
The Clerk thanked Jan Ellis who
had helped with this problem and managed to get info onto the website.
2 Shore
Cottage was still ongoing and awaiting a response from Ms Elliss solicitor.
63/09 Public
Questions relating to the agenda.
(limited to 10 minutes)
None .
64/09 Date
and venue of next meeting.
16th September 2009 at Horton Village Hall.